When you think about dice and game shows, the show you probably think of first is the Heatter-Quigley show High Rollers, hosted by Alex Trebek and his awesome 70’s fro for two separate runs on NBC, and then again by Wink Martindale in 1987. Through every incarnation of the show, the bonus round remained the same: the Big Numbers. Based on the old gambling game Shut the Box, it heavily relied on luck, but also had some strategy in how you played it. It also seemed extremely difficult, as players rarely walked away winners. We wondered if the difficulty of the game was due to poor strategy, or if the game was simply stacked against the contestant. To answer that question, we first had to figure out just what the optimal strategy should be.

The rules are simple enough. The contestant is faced with the numbers 1 through 9. In order to win, they must eliminate each number, which they do by rolling two dice. After each die roll, the contestant chooses from the numbers they have remaining either a number or combination of numbers that equal to the number rolled, which are then eliminated from further consideration. If the contestant manages to eliminate all nine numbers before rolling a number that cannot be matched, they win the grand prize.

During the course of the game, the contestant can also earn “insurance markers”. Every time they roll doubles, they earn an insurance marker, which essentially give the contestant an extra life – if they roll a total which they cannot match, they may instead roll again. Contestants can use insurance immediately, even on the same roll that earned them the insurance.

Sometimes you can only match a roll one way. But most of the time, especially in the first few rolls, you have several ways to match a total with the numbers remaining. For example, there are 12 possible ways of matching a roll of 12 on the first roll! Which of these 12 would give you the best chance of winning the game?

We decided to take a brute force approach to evaluating this game. Since there are nine different numbers, and each number has two states (either still on the board or removed), that means that there are 512 (2 to the 9th power) possible combinations of numbers that you could be left with at some point during the game. While that would be a large number to work out by hand, luckily we can make the computer do most of the heaving lifting for us.

First, we can trivially work out the probabilities of every situation where there are no choices to be made. For example, consider the situation where only the number 7 is lit up and we have no insurance markers. The only way to win in this case is to roll a 7. Seasoned gamblers would know that the chances of rolling 7 on a pair of dice is 16.66% chance, or ⅙. However we have to remember that not all non-seven rolls will lose the game – a roll of doubles grants an insurance marker that we could immediately cash in. That means that of the 36 possible rolls, 6 are winners, 6 let us roll again, and 24 are losers, which means the chances of winning are 6 / 30, or 20%.

Once we have these easy cases calculated, we can start working on the cases where we have a choice. We used an iterative process for this. We made up a list of all number combinations that we could not evaluate as above, and looked at each of them. If we came up with a case where every option’s chances of winning had not yet been determined, we skipped it for the moment. If we could figure out every choice’s chances of victory, we could then figure out which option would provide the greatest chance of victory, and then determine what the overall chances of winning were from that configuration of numbers.

For example, say we have the numbers 3, 4, and 7 left on the board. We could not have figured out the chances of victory from this position earlier, since if we roll a 7, we can do one of two things: take off the 3 and 4 leaving the 7, or remove the 7 and leave the 3 and 4. But now that we’ve determined the chances of winning from all of the simple cases, we can use those to figure out this case as well. We’ve already figured out that the chances of victory if we have a bare 7 left on the board is 20%. It turns out that the chances of victory with 3 and 4 on the board are slightly better: 20.83%. That means in this instance, we should eliminate the 7 if we roll a seven with the dice, since a board with a 3 and a 4 left on it would be easier to deal with than a board with only a 7 on it. Combine that with the chances of winning when we roll the other good numbers, none of which require making a choice (3, 4, 10, 11), we can determine that the overall chances of victory from this position are 7.64%.

After iterating through the list of unsolved configurations several times, we eventually discovered both the best strategy to use and the chances of winning from every possible combination of numbers. From the starting position, where all nine numbers are lit and you have no insurance markers, you have a 17.1% chance of knocking all the numbers off.

Can we make any characterizations about the best strategy? In general, it seems that the best strategy is to remove the largest numbers from the board that you can from your roll. This means that on your first roll, if your roll is less than nine, you should remove just the number you rolled. If you roll 10 or more, you should remove the 9 and either the 1, 2, or 3, depending on if you rolled 10, 11, or 12.

I do say this is the best strategy in general, but there appear to be a large number of exceptions. Say you rolled a five to start with, and took off the 5. If on your second roll you rolled another five, you might be inclined, following the rule of thumb above, to knock off the 4 and the 1. Doing this leaves you with a 7.01% chance of winning. If instead you removed the 3 and 2, you’d have a 7.47% chance of winning. This is just one of many cases where following the general strategy is not optimal. We tried to figure out if there was a common thread to these exceptions, but nothing jumped out at us. Even so, We would expect that a person following the basic strategy and ignoring these exceptions would probably only cost themselves a few tenths of a percent on their overall winning percentage.

If you’d like to play around with these results, I’ve included a little widget at the end of this post for you to play with. Highlight the numbers remaining on the board and the number of insurance markers you have, and it’ll outline the best strategy to follow at that point, as well as your chances of victory. Have fun!

James

So in your opinion do you think the big numbers were too hard or do you think that people just sometimes played the wrong numbers? I can remember when i was a kid watching the show and i would get so mad when they would roll,example 9 and the 9 is gone but they can take either 8-1 or 6-3, and they get rid of the 1, i always felt the 1 was a lot more wiggle room compared to say a 3, am i crazy or is it good strategy? Btw great article :).

Dave

I think it’s more the difficulty of the game more than bad play. If we assume that, due to the way they would straddle games between shows, you’d see one Big Numbers game per episode, you’d expect to have fewer than one win per week of shows, even if it was played perfectly. Of course, when you factor in suboptimal play, the wait between wins was probably even longer in reality.

After playing with the results for a while, I get the feeling that the 1 can be a bit of a liability, especially in the later stages of the game. The biggest issue is that the 1 is the only number that can’t be eliminated by itself – it’s got to be removed with another number. As a result, it may not add as much flexibility as it might seem.

As an extreme example, you’re actually better off in the case when you have only a 7 left than when you have a 6 and 1 left. In both cases, you can only win with a roll of seven. In the former case, a roll of double threes lets you roll again, while in the latter, it would eliminate the 6 and leave you with a 1 you can’t do anything with.

Art

The danger of keeping the “1” in play too long is that you run the risk of losing by leaving a lone “1” on the board.

Eric

why is 9 a bad roll when the numbers are 1,2,3,4,5?

Dave

Whoops, looks like my data file was missing a couple of nines. Thanks for the catch!

Eric

you’re welcome

Steve

Great work, but some of your probabilities are a bit too high, due to a misapplication of the game’s rules.

If you leave only the 1, it’s not a “bad roll”, it’s an automatic loss – even if you have insurance markers.

Proof: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfVosxQRjYs&t=1227

Therefore, having just the 7 left and three insurance markers is a much better spot to be in than having the 6 and the 1 and three insurance markers (because rolling a 6 – even as double threes – is now an instant loss). But the widget says that you’re 59.04% in both cases.

I wonder if this would affect the strategy at any point along the way…